PHP Meetup 2011 - PHP Framework Shootout
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Time: 930 to 3pm estimate
Date: 19 February 2011

Info boleh baca kat php.net.my punya announcement:
http://www.php.net.my/content/phpmeetup-2011-framework-shootout

FB: http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=147833501942196

Semoga segalanya dipermudahkan olehNYA.

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hehehe.. amin...

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Kena buat realtime test, kasi satu problem untuk solve dalam tempoh 1 jam kemudian masing2 membentangkan hasil kerja masing2. Nampak sikit hehe.

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aku ingat setiap presenter perlu bentangkan perkara yang sama. seperti how to create a simple blog using framework. nih idea dari azrad. ehehehe. so baru kita nampak bebetul which one is better.

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kasik up balik

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how to create a simple blog using framework?
wah, ini test dari localhost atau live hosting???

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amin...

aku cam payah laa ndak jawabkan soalan ko ni...

ko pikir laa sendiri mana yang terbaik..

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ahahahahahaha,

terbaik jawapan azrad. Big smile

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pada django conf 2008 , carl henderson (flick) di jemput untuk bagi presentation mengenai flickr dan php. Tak nak selitkan oth language framework ke just for fun, dan akan jadi lebih menarik... satu framework dari language lain. Contohnya invite orang Rails untuk ruby, dan Django untuk python.

hanya pandangan.... Party

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simple blog is too simple. perlukan sesuatu yang menonjolkan setiap ciri2 unik setiap framework.

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mosfet83 wrote:
simple blog is too simple. perlukan sesuatu yang menonjolkan setiap ciri2 unik setiap framework.

oh, tu macam kah??? Big smile

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limited time kot mosfet.

Doubt, aku tak kenal orang yang tahu framework lain. Maybe ko leh cadangkan?

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django, mungkin aku atau sy_hadri kot, kalau Ruby on Rails bazet...

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Rails 3 Advocate here Laughing out loud

sapa jumpa buku rails3 kat kino/mph bagitau aku atau sembunyikkan kat rak masak memasak Laughing out loud

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aku_tak_tau wrote:

limited time kot mosfet.

Doubt, aku tak kenal orang yang tahu framework lain. Maybe ko leh cadangkan?

mungkin. tapi kalau diperhatikan dari tutorial2 framework ni, kebanyakan akan tunjukkan cara untuk membuat blog dalam masa 5 minit. jadi cari something yang 6 kali lagi susah, untuk disiapkan dalam masa 30 minit. hehe. lagipun presenter semua tahap expert bukan beginner, sure nothing bagi dorang.

apa pun sekadar cadangan untuk menarikkan lagi meetup kali ni. Laughing out loud

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mosfet, menarik gak tu...

apa kata soh diaorang replicate php.net.my dalam framework masing2...
ada brani kaa?

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yeah!

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azrad wrote:

mosfet, menarik gak tu...

apa kata soh diaorang replicate php.net.my dalam framework masing2...
ada brani kaa?

Amin007 suka perkara di atas Big smile

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azrad wrote:

mosfet, menarik gak tu...

apa kata soh diaorang replicate php.net.my dalam framework masing2...
ada brani kaa?


ahhh ni soklan bocor. kang dorang dah siapkan awal2 sebelum datang. Shock

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mosfet83 wrote:
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mosfet, menarik gak tu...

apa kata soh diaorang replicate php.net.my dalam framework masing2...
ada brani kaa?


ahhh ni soklan bocor. kang dorang dah siapkan awal2 sebelum datang. Shock

hahaha like!

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sapa jumpa buku rails3 kat kino/mph bagitau aku atau sembunyikkan kat rak masak memasak Laughing out loud

uiks patut la bini aku cakap kat rak masak2 ade buku programming. lama dah buat kerja ni? Tongue

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yang susun buku kat kino/mph tuh bukanya tahu apa, nampak tajuk "cake"php je, Python "cookbook" dll ... dia bubuh kat tempat masakan la...

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Ada sesiapa yang ingin membentangkan CakePHP?

have move to python since 2009 ;-)
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django, mungkin aku atau sy_hadri kot, kalau Ruby on Rails bazet...

haip Tongue

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yang susun buku kat kino/mph tuh bukanya tahu apa, nampak tajuk "cake"php je, Python "cookbook" dll ... dia bubuh kat tempat masakan la...

kalau yang "cake"php tu ok la kot. tapi python "cookbook" tu? ape dia ingat orang nak masak ular ke? Big smile

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Perlu penaja untuk makanan? Saya andai bahawa kami sudah mendapatkan tempat untuk rancangan ini.

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aku cuma nak demo sistem aja...Wowza Flash Server + CakePHP integration.....buleh Laughing out loud Live streaming terus

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saya punya background asal adalah PHP. Sekarang banyak python. Sekali sekala buat juga php lagi.

apa yang saya suka pasal Framework shootout ni, ialah untuk dengar apa features dan kelebihan framework yang presenter present. Apa yang menyebabkan mereka menggunakan Framework tersebut dari Framework lain. Jadi mungkin dalam project tertentu dari semua presentation yang saya dengar saya boleh menilai, memilih, merasakan bahawa sesuatu framework tersebut sesuai bagi project yang ingin/akan saya bangunkan.

Oleh itu ni cadangan/pandangan untuk presenter presentkan sebagai basic guideline:

1. Macamana nak start new project/development/app from ground zero/scratch

2. Tunjukkan basic MVC - macamana framework tersebut present kan dalam features nya.

2.1. Tunjukkan dari segi contoh coding model, view dan controller macamana. (ni boleh ambil contoh sample blog post/comments application)

2.2. Apa yang unique mengenai MVC framework tersebut

2.3. Apa yang extra/kelebihan yang ada yang membantu dalam development
2.3.1. Scaffolding ?
2.3.2. Admin / ACL / Auth ?
2.3.3. dll

2.4. Apa yang presenter tak suka pada framework tersebut dan kenapa?

2.5. ...

2.6. ... cadangan lain dari anda...

sekadar pandangan sahaja....

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aku cuma nak demo sistem aja...Wowza Flash Server + CakePHP integration.....buleh Laughing out loud Live streaming terus

waa menarik... tapi nak dengar juga cam cadangan dari segi guideline yang dibentangkan di atas.

kalau macamtuh saya boleh juga tunjukkan django dengan python rtmp server untuk live video streaming, and recording. Or one to one random video conference. Fully open source solution hehehe... PartyPartyParty

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waa memang rasa kehangatan shoot out ni. kalau RoR nak demo vdo+wowza, and django comeout with something similar... PartyLoveParty

tunggu PHP presenter menghangatkan lagi thread ni.... Crazy

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ohai, aku boleh bentangkan sikit mengenai CakePHP 1.2 - I've spent the last 1.5 years hacking out weird bits of it (extending AuthComponent, rewriting Pagination to support manual joins, modularising Behaviors, Components, writing Shells, etc.)

I have only one question, where and when is the meetup?

YJ

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ler silap bazet, ingatkan RoR, rupanya cakePHP ....huhu...

@jerng: kena tanya organizer/ zam / aku_tak_tahu, dll, rasanya tempat insya'Allah kat MIMOS cam june 2010 meetup lepas.

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RoR = hobbyist
CakePHP = cari makan

Maybe sebab Ruby bukan aku punya 1st language so, kalau untuk production, mesti guna CakePHP

Wowza nih big potential Laughing out loud Cuma tak tau java pulak

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TerasAmpuh, tempat buat di MIMOS. Seperti Meetup sebelum ini. Zam sudah ada perjanjian berdarah dengan wakil dari MIMOS. Kalau mahu cari sponsor atau mahu menjadi sponsor untuk makan. Sangatlah dialu-alukan. Ehehehehe

Bila masih dalam perancangan. 1st round kena cukupkan presenter dan tentatif program kena firm. Baru aku dan zam berani nak hadap orang Mimos untuk berbincang mengenai tarikh yang sesuai. Yang pastinya akan berlaku pada hari Sabtu. Smile

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mengadap ok je.

menjawab tu kureng skit.

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bazet, git dah buat sebelum ni. Masa meetup yangbko tak boleh datang tu. Ahahaha. Aku kalau boleh tak mahu lari dari framework shootout.

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aku_tak_tau wrote:
bazet, git dah buat sebelum ni. Masa meetup yangbko tak boleh datang tu. Ahahaha. Aku kalau boleh tak mahu lari dari framework shootout.

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alah Laughing out loud

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bazet, git dah buat sebelum ni. Masa meetup yangbko tak boleh datang tu. Ahahaha. Aku kalau boleh tak mahu lari dari framework shootout.

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ahaha semua pakai main like like je. presenter belum cukup korum lagi nih. ahahaha. lambat finalised presenter lambat la aku dengan zam nak pergi propose dekat mimos. ahahaha

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aku sokong bazet bentang CakePHP and RoR Sad( Steve

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banyak sangat dah tu .. 8 framework, kalau sorang 1 jam dah 8 jam. biar betul. fokus perlu diberi kepada framework PHP.

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banyak sangat dah tu .. 8 framework, kalau sorang 1 jam dah 8 jam. biar betul. fokus perlu diberi kepada framework PHP.

yup banyak sangat, one day event tak sempat... 3/4 framework pagi, max 3 je petang session... itupun cramped..

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wow. kena estimate berapa lama masa untuk presentation. tapi apa pun yang penting presenter kena ada dulu.

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sumbat je dulu. symfony, zend dan CI masih tiada presenter. mau aku kena drop that topic. Ehehehehe

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kena perbanyakkan php nyer. kalau drop awal2 dah sama banyak dengan framework language lain

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Hihihi. Kolo RoR tu takde orang, bleh ke aku ndak nyibuk present untuk RoR?
Hahaha.

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